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Fernanco
Domeyko is an architect and has also taught architecture around
the world, at several universities including MIT, where he
served as a professor for several years.
AJ:
There is this general mentality in academia that the architect
must be a renaissance man and have a generalist education.
Why is that? Why is it necessary for the architect to have
this broad education?
F.
Domeyko: The Renaissance man was a generalist man, a broad
man as a human being. The Renaissance men are examples of
completeness of men as humans. They touch on poetry, on the
sense of infinity and on techniques. They are complete men
both from the physical and intellectual perspective. That
was the idea of old times men. I think that education is exactly
that. Education is a process of thinking, a way to understand
and be responsible to society. It is a way to be responsible
to other human beings who inhabit our planet which is constantly
changing, because of technology, disasters, and tragedies.
That is why architects in this super-dynamic constant movement
have to be prepared to think always in an innovative way.
I believe that a school has to communicate the sense of excellence,
the sense of ethics and the sense of aesthetics. These three
things have to be part of our education which would then allow
us to integrate technologies and other things which are associated
with resolving problems.
AJ:
You are saying that technique that the architect uses is not
necessarily a technique that the architect completely understands?
Is it a technique that he uses while trying to achieve something
that he has thought of as a generalist?
F.
Domeyko: I think we use techniques for many different
reasons, certainly not for a linear thinking. To solve problem
X I will use technique Y, is a mechanistic approach. Our mind
is very free. It can't be forced to think linearly. We operate
in an environment, and for that the school has to be a good
place to receive information, learn about new issues and discoveries,
explore your interests and prepare your mind to be open. Every
time that we face new techniques we have to be able to operate
and open our minds to that. That should be a part of our educational
and technical preparation.
AJ:Today
schools advertise their specialized programs. Do you think
that we are currently witnessing a fragmentation of the profession
of architecture? The option to get a generalized education
is there but students themselves choose not to, because of
the needs of the market that requires specialized education?
F.
Domeyko: I think that the role of the school is not to
advertise new techniques but rather incorporate them with
the contemporary thinking. I believe that it is not possible
to separate history from ethics, from scientific discoveries,
and from philosophical achievements. It is true that techniques
open new ways to think, such as this latest parametric way
of thinking. Even though today software programs can do open
parametric possibilities, that way to think is nothing new
since it was investigated by others a long time ago. So, it's
not possible to separate techniques from the way of thinking.
They go in parallel but in different speeds. Thinking is in
general by far more advanced than available techniques. The
problems we constantly discover are by far more dynamic and
strong than the extremely primitive techniques we have.
I think the good schools don't advertise about techniques
that much but they advertise about problems and attitudes
towards life. If schools produce people who are purely technical
and don't think at all, they are producing technicians and
that is the least we want. Schools have to produce professionals,
artists or intellectuals. Schools should prepare students
intellectually to deal with the physical environment.
AJ:
Isn't a form of dangerous specialization when a student comes
into the school lacking basic techniques of the profession
that have been there forever and he/she ends up substituting
them with new specialized techniques which eventually end
up defining student's thought? In other words, if I can't
draw and I can use a software which contrary to the human
mind has some limitations, wouldn't my thought process be
limited by it and wouldn't that limit myself to a very specialized
end product?
F.
Domeyko: Yes, what you are saying is absolutely true.
Machines in general are serving only certain aspects of the
scientific investigation and particularly in architecture
they are serving only certain aspects of our process of design
while others are not touched. For example, our attitude toward
nature, toward human life, toward our own existence as human
beings is an important part of the design process which is
not taken into account from the machines.
Since this super-rationalistic time doesn't provide us with
answers to the big questions, people start to hesitate about
the rationalistic thinking and about process. This certainly
does not mean that we deny process, but that other issues
such as intuition and the fact of discovery became very important.
People
who use software believe that they can generate through it
a certain process and they can find and discovery things that
they never expected. But the same happens if you start to
understand things that you never understood before. Just making
things, for example, is another way to produce discoveries.
By making certain things you find other things that you never
thought that you would find.
In any
case, when you enter the discovery process you have to act
with intuition and without intention; you have to try to liberate
your mind from the intention. I don't deny the possibility
of the software to get there but whatever is the way you took
it is an act of consciousness that you understand anything
different and new. The mechanism in itself doesn't resolve
the problem, but it eventually can open certain aspects that
we never thought of before.
AJ:Do
you think that what drives students to be more specialists
is the professional market, since with a specialized degree
you have more chances of getting a better job?
F.
Domeyko: I know exactly what you are talking about and
I think this is completely personal. I believe it is a mistake
to think that way. People who believe in that are preparing
for the next three years and then after three years they will
be replaced by a new generation. I think you should always
be critical and distant to techniques or just love them as
they are. Do not try to surpass the machine. You cannot ask
a software to do more than what it can produce.
AJ:
How important do you think experience is for an architect?
Does that limit the horizon of young professionals who just
stepped out of school?
F.
Domeyko: I think that experience does not exist in itself
but what exists is the capacity of reaction. The capacity
to react in a relative right way to new problems is something
very important. There is no achievement in the architectural
profession as in any profession. We constantly prove things.
I think life is everyday completely new and challenging. We
can't argue that a certain architect is better from somebody
else because he/she has experience. What counts is the capacity
of reaction to a specific problem. In this case, a young and
inexperienced architect might have a better reaction than
an experienced architect.
AJ:What
you are saying is extremely important, but do you think that
the professional market has realized that?
F.
Domeyko: I think yes. Architecture is very complicated
because you cannot take the risk of millions of dollars with
somebody who hasn't built anything, even if he/she is someone
with a good idea. But little by little if that person is able
to think correctly and react correctly he/she will achieve
something.
AJ:
This brings us to another question in terms of legalizing
specialization. The market prefers specialized architects,
i.e., SOM that might have a department that specifically works
on hospitals or labs. If some powerful firms like that end
up controlling the AIA wouldn't there be some sort of federal
legislation that would require that person who wants to build
a hospital should go to a certified firm? Which means that
the younger generalist would not even have the opportunity
to react?
F.
Domeyko: That is purely a political, bureaucratic and
economical problem. It has nothing to do with education or
the way to think. Of course, when those big firms achieve
certain stability they want to preserve their privileges.
The architectural thinking or the architectural attitude is
to read and renovate society and not invent it. In that sense,
if, for example, SOM has a vision for society today and another
architect does not, they are the winner. In recent years I
am doing installations with students around the campus. Believe
that in fact you can do architecture in the most modest way.
You don't need to make a hospital to make architecture. The
majority of hospitals don't contain any architectural quality.
They are completely empty monsters, constructions and not
buildings.
I think
that today a new way of working is emerging because of the
extent of the work, its complexity, because of the possibilities
and of the techniques that we have. We can now achieve better
results in a much more complementary way. I see collaborations
happening between big professional offices, which didn't exist
before.
People
say that research has been done on software or in building
technology but never in architecture. This is not true. We
have been doing research in architecture that we don't classify
as such. I feel that we have to orient school towards interdisciplinary
research. Schools are where this can really happen. In their
environment there is a very actual and interesting debate
between the idea of software as a tool of the architectural
thought process and the logic of understanding through senses
derived from the bringing concepts to the direct confrontation
of the architecture facts, tectonics and phenomenology.
Something
else very important is that schools doesn't finish when you
graduate. After graduation you continue to be part of the
school which has to extend to your professional life.
AJ:
It feels that the architect is not anymore what Frank Lloyd
Wright was, a utopian thinker, but the architect nowadays
is more of a coordinator.
F.
Domeyko: I believe that vision always comes from one person.
He/she is the one who will take the pencil and do the job.
It is not a common agreement because vision is not a common
agreement. In the architectural office people do not vote.
Architects just make arguments and find reasons, forms and
designs which convince.
AJ:
Do you feel that in the corporate architecture the role
of someone as the project manager is the replacement of the
generalist architect or a necessity for the firm to work?
F.
Domeyko: I think that in good firms project managers achieve
their positions because they are able to think correctly and
make the right decisions.
My advice to students would be to have more faith. Believe
me, this is a beautiful profession and it's always possible
to do something successful. You are always in confrontation
of problems and must have the desire to discover, think, and
challenge new things. There are people who believe that machines
will resolve everything, even make the human brain survive.
For thirty years, I have been hearing the same discourse:
In the future this and that will happen
I don't believe
in looking at the future because it is definitely going to
be different that what we predict. So I would put everything
in the present. I don't care if in the future some software
will be able to produce my project instead of me. I think
what matters will always be humans, ourselves, not the machines,
not the techniques!

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